IS RETINOL SAFE AROUND THE EYES? 👀 DERMATOLOGIST @Dr Dray

IS RETINOL SAFE AROUND THE EYES? 👀 DERMATOLOGIST @Dr Dray ON RETINOL AROUND THE EYE , DRY EYE DISEASE, AND MEIBOMIAN GLAND DYSFUNCTION. DO RETINOIDS AND RETINOLS CAUSE CHRONIC DRY EYES? ARE RETINOLS AND RETINOIDS TOXIC TO THE MEIBOMIAN GLANDS? #retinol #antiaging #dermatologist

0:00 Is retinol safe around the eyes?
0:51 Side effects of retinol and retinoids
2:27 Types of dry eye disease
3:49 Retinol and Meibomian gland dysfunction
6:12 Risk factors for dry eye disease

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    1. Dr Dray, I been watching ur vids on tretinoin. I have rosacea- very sensitive skin. Ugh. Is this safe for this skin type? Thanks for all your info. Have a great day!😊🌸

    1. Dr dray Can you try dhc cleansing oil I heard that it’s better than the hadalabo one an it’s also a Japanese product

  1. I’ve been using The Ordinary’s retinol about three months now. My eyes were dry and irritated for a few weeks, but are fine now. The same for my skin around the eyes. I’m so glad I didn’t stop, because my skin is so much better! Both wrinkles and old scars from acne have improved a lot! Thank you so much Dr Dray!❤️❤️❤️

  2. Great topic today. As someone who has been using Tretinoin since my early 20s for adult acne, I was advised by a very savvy dermatologist to never stop using it, only in pregnancy and nursing.
    I’m 63, abd do use it under my eyes, but not to my lash line. I have dry eyes from both aging and Sjogrens. I use Restasis and a preservative free saline eye drop and a gel at night. My ophthalmologist knows that I put the Tretinoin under my eyes and around my crows feet. She’s fine with it. Aging definitely plays a big part in getting dry eyes. By the time I was in my 40s, I could no longer wear my contact lenses. But, I have very few wrinkles, and that’s good enough for me. I think most people use too much Retin-A. A pea size amount is all that’s needed. I follow up with a facial moisturizer and put it around my eyes as well. 😊💖

    1. Hi i just got told i had ssa and dont have dry eyes like i used to in my 30s. Was told chronic dry eye syndrome. I wish i could talk to u re symptoms cuz the reddit groups aren’t really givin me answers nor 3 rheums!!! Oh ya and a neurologist!

    2. thumbs up to all you say, a pea size amount is enough and in my opinion works a lot better overall than using extra amount, when it comes to tretinoin ‘less is better’.

    3. @ReuCat absolutely 💯 % agree. By the way, I’m Ruekat too. Both on my email and IG, just spelled differently!

  3. I’ve been using tretinoin for over 14 years. I used to have dry crepey undereyes but Dr Dray’s recommendation of using a moisturizer with urea has been a game changer. I now use tretinoin up to my orbital bone and I have no dryness or crepy skin👍

    1. I have been using “Balea – 5% urea eye cream” along with tret as well, it saved the skin around the eyes.

    2. @Ms. Nguyen I found them both on Amazon. Zeroid can be hard to find but Eucerin also makes a good urea moisturizer.

    3. @Ms. Nguyen I purchase both from Amazon. Zeroid can be hard to get but Eucerin also makes a good urea cream

  4. You’re sensational! 🤩Thanks for the useful tips and info, it’s helped me make wiser choices to help improve my skin significantly, and I am able to communicate my needs and concerns with my derm more clearly. You have such a radiant glow! 💫

  5. Im glad that for the last almost 4 years Ive used tretinoin around the eyes, and nothing has happened besides the fine lines around the eyes disappeared 😍

  6. As someone with Sjogren’s Syndrome and hence dry eye disease this video was really interesting! Every night I use a vitamin a (retinol palmitate) ointment in my eyes which helps a lot with keeping my eyes moisturized. I will have to ask my optometrist next time I am at an appointment about topical use of retinol! Thanks!

  7. My dark circles were lilac before I started tretinoin, from bad blood flow I assume. Haven’t noticed any more dry eyes, but I don’t have a problem with that in the first place. My opinion is that people want a scapegoat, as usual.
    We have to remember that tretinoin has been used for more than 50 years. We should’ve seen a uprise in dry eye problems by now, even if it’s something that’s not really researched on. As medical archives are always there.

    1. I would think it’s more likely that
      the skin was very thin around your eyes, making the underlying vascular tissue more visible? Now with tret your skin has thickened up, and made all that subdermal stuff less obvious.

  8. Such a helpful video! I have been using a miniscule amount of trerinoin on my crows feet area on and off for 20 years. I’ve developed dry eye as I’ve aged and this video made me feel better ! I do have rosascea and this correlation is so interesting!

  9. I’ve had issues with those meibomian glands most of my life. Warned several times by ophthalmologists who didn’t tell me what to do about it. (Probably as a result of living in Florida – ‘fungus among us’). Just 4 months ago I found out about a lid cleansing product ( Sterilid) that has hypocholorous acid in it. Eyelids feel much better and seems to have improved my dry eye problem. Fingers crossed.
    For people who purchase it, it smells like bleach but it does not irritate the eye.

  10. Ive had a certain degree of meibomian gland dysfunction for most of my life that’s caused quite a few problems for me over the years. I used to get a lot of styes, and around 10 years ago had one that left me with a blockage on my lower right lid, which went mostly unnoticed until about a year later when it had turned into a chalazion and needed to be excised. That surgery was honestly one of the most terrifying experiences of my life, and unfortunately left me with scar tissue on about a quarter inch section of my inner lid, which has completely destroyed or severely limited the meibomian gland function in that area. My right eye has felt noticeably drier than my left eye ever since, and I have to use moisturizing eye drops most days. It’s especially annoying since I wear contact lenses, and live in the dry Colorado climate. I actually started using a meibomian gland expresser tool, after applying a warm compress to my eyes, once every week or so to ensure that the glands are flowing/ help prevent future blockages, and it’s made a big difference!

    1. I LOVE when Dr Dray hearts my comments 🤗 lol, seriously though, anyone with persistent styes/chalazion/blocked meibomian glands… Talk to your doctor/opthalmologist or optometrist about your options! The opthalmologist that removed my chalazion recommended that I apply a warm compress “frequently” to prevent “excess material from calcifying,” and I’ve had multiple optometrists/opthalmologists suggest trying a meibomian gland expresser tool (there are some that look like tweezers or forceps with a blunt end, and others that look flat, more like a popsicle stick… Both have their pros and cons), provided I use them with CAUTION, and both pieces of advice have made a HUGE difference in the comfort and appearance of my eyes, as well as seemingly in my tear film quality

  11. “Getting older is really, really common.” gave me a good chuckle!
    I’ve been using retinol all over my face since the first big lockdown with no issues around the eyes.

  12. Thank you for addressing this, I was really frustrated by all the videos about retinol around the eyes just repeating that it’s totally okay for the SKIN around the eye – yes, but what about my actual EYES? The few opthalmologist videos on the topic are counseling against it and say the damage with long term use could be irreversible, so as much as I would love to, I decided not to use retinol in the eye area because I’d rather have wrinkles than suffer form dry eyes…

  13. I was in the market for a retinol eye product and I found RoC’s eye retinol was only $10 at dollar general while $20 at Walmart! I’m excited to try it out

  14. Thank you so so so much for covering this topic! I suffer from dry eye disease and put a barrier around my eyes to prevent my retinol from creeping up. If I could go back in time to my younger days, I would not have used eyeliner religiously, never would have used contacts regularly and I would have gotten my eyes checked by an opthalmologist every couple years.

  15. I’m so glad you made this video. I have been using adapalene since August 2021, and I have been putting it right under my eyes, on the crow’s feet, and even a little on the upper eyelids where the crow’s feet meet the eye. I’ve had absolutely no issue using adapalene there. No dryness, no irritation, nothing. So, I figured I could keep doing it, but I was always worried that I might be doing more harm than good, but now I feel better. THANK YOU!

  16. I have been using Differin Gel for almost a year now. I started out just applying it to the face, but once I realized there was a market for retinol eye cream, I figured I’d just try out the Differin around the eyes. I use it both underneath my eyes and on my eyelids with no irritation.

  17. Before I started putting vaseline or Aquaphor around my eyes before retinol I had some of the retinol migrate to my eyelid and cause a painful burn there. So I am very careful now and always use the vaseline to make sure that doesn’t happen. Another good video and lots of info, thanks!

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